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22nd Apr 2025

Anti-Racism Ain’t Polite: The Truth About Race We Refuse to Face

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In this unapologetically honest episode of A Black Executive Perspective, hosts Tony Tidbit and Chris P. Reed sit down with Will Fullwood—education and tech expert, attorney, and founder of The Contraband Wagon—for a powerful conversation on race, truth, and transformation. Will takes us back to a defining moment at just six years old that opened his eyes to the realities of racism and set him on a lifelong path toward racial consciousness.

Together, they unpack how open, intentional dialogue can serve as a radical tool for dismantling white supremacy and building a culture rooted in anti-racism. This episode dives deep into why we must make room for the uncomfortable, create space for courageous conversations, and stop sugarcoating the truth.

Will also shares his bold vision for expanding these conversations into live experiences—bringing The Contraband Wagon to churches, campuses, and community spaces across the country. This is more than a talk—it’s a call to action.


▶︎ In This Episode

00:00 Introduction: Challenging Stereotypes

00:41: Podcast Introduction and Sponsors

01:11: Guest Introduction: Will Fullwood

02:46: Will's Background and Early Life

06:39: The Origin of Contraband Wagon

13:39: Challenges and Early Reactions

25:05: Defining Anti-Racism

30:11: Engaging in Difficult Conversations

35:09: Understanding Anti-Racism

36:07: Defining Racism and Anti-Racism

37:27: The Importance of Dialogue

40:59: Challenges in Combating Racism

44:03: Actions Over Results

47:11: Contraband Wagon's Mission

55:19: Future Vision for Contraband Wagon

59:16: Final Thoughts and Call to Action


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